i’m waiting for someone to write epic meta on why the reason bucky is so popular with female fans is bc his storyline being about being stripped of agency and personal autonomy resonates particularly with female experiences

I think you… just did it?

Yeah, this must be why most of the fic on AO3 is written with really great Black Widow, who’s never sidelined, ignored, or turned into a series of Dad Jokes. Because her plotline is about the same things.


Or why there’s a tonne of fanworks and meta about Gamora.

I’m not discounting or dismissing female fans who find that Bucky’s narrative resonates with them. But I think there’s meta to be written about how this storyline of being stripped of agency and personal autonomy, a storyline that applies to at least two female characters in the MCU, was not considered narratively important until it happened to a white man.

Fandom is notorious for wanting storylines that resonate with female experiences but dismissing female characters, such that even when we have two women whose storylines match that they’re ignored in favor of the dude. And THEN fandom is notorious for writing long essays about how they like the male character because he represents their experience in ways they’ve never seen before, without ever acknowledging that women are having that same storyline in more explicitly gendered terms right there.

That’s fandom in a microcosm. And I’m pretty sure that’s the point theladymonsters was making.

All of the above is true, but I wouldn’t blame media consumers so much as media creators.

Bucky’s storyline and experience with losing agency and autonomy is played out in an extremely engaging way. The movies show his before, during, and (presumably and hopefully) will show his after.

Natasha’s loss of agency and autonomy isn’t explicitly shown in the movies like Bucky’s is. (I believe it’s played out in the comics but I don’t know for sure). We only get an ‘after’ of Natasha; the way that she’s trying to rebuild and recreate herself. Her story is aftermath, not process.

Gamora’s storyline was handled terribly. There’s a lot of much better meta than I could write about this, but suffice it to say that the main thing that I took from that movie was “dear god i wish the movie actually addressed Gamora and Nebula in any substantial way”. Gamora’s reaction to her loss of agency revolved around Quill, rather than herself, and therefore, I think, packed a lot less punch.

Point being, Bucky’s experience is the one fandom latches onto because it has the best source material. It elicits the most emotional response because it was explored more and better than the stories of the women. Because misogyny. 

#basically i don’t like blaming female fans for their engagement with media

For myself, I’ve made my peace with the fact that I want to work out all my issues of female experience on the bodies of male characters because it gives me a little distance from it. When those bad things happen to female characters, it’s too real, too close. I don’t want stories about women suffering violence and dehumanization; I want stories about women who are strong and fierce. I want stories about women who are as safe as I hope I am (and know I’m probably not). When I want a story about suffering and helplessness you’re damn straight I want it to be about a man, because I don’t want it to be about me.




My Costumer taught me his bitter song, and it is guaranteed to make you feel better, especially if sang with a group of people joining in. So I thought I’d share it for any of you who might need it

If you’re bitter and you’re jaded clap your hands

If you’re bitter and you’re jaded clap your hands

If you’re bitter and sadistic and about to go ballistic

If you’re bitter and you’re jaded clap your hands



Things that make UBC so special (part 21): We have tree swings on Main Mall :3